Showing how UMaine Hoop teams pad stats with 2 non D-1 games

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Showing how UMaine Hoop teams pad stats with 2 non D-1 games

Postby bcbc55 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:29 am

Each UMainerbasketball teams plays 2 non D-1 opponents that count towards their stats, including team and individual stats and coaching records. If interested in this comparison of how they pad their stats just go to bangordailynews.com and hit Maine Blogs and scroll down. The stats include the 2 non D-1 games, the D-1 non conference games and the combination of both. For the men it is 2 non D-1 games and 14 D-1 games for a total of 16 games and for the women 2 non D-1 games and 12 D-1 games for a total of 14 games
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Postby mainejeff » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:23 am

You've been pounding this into our heads for years. Do we really need another round of this? :roll:

Until the rest of the league stops scheduling non-D1 opponents this is a non-issue.
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Re: Showing how UMaine Hoop teams pad stats with 2 non D-1 g

Postby Linguist » Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:24 am

until all of American College Basketball stops
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Postby mainejeff » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:12 am

Linguist wrote:until all of American College Basketball stops


Amen!
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Postby Blind Zebra » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:53 am

It is interesting how Maine fills a schedule with UMPI and UMM when it could schedule a stronger more competitive matchup, perhaps one of many D2 schools located in New England? There is no purpose in playing sub D3 teams, other than a meaningless home game to dress the won-loss record. It really makes the program look like it doesn't belong in D1. I understand that other schools do the same thing, but it is all just crap during regular season play. Even exhibition games should be stronger opponents in my opinion.
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Postby Maine19Fan » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:04 pm

Maine isn't playing lower-level teams to "pad" its record.
It does so because it's extremely difficult to get non-league home games against anyone else.
Correct me on this, but the closest D1 programs (for N-L games) are in the Boston area, some 250 miles away from UMaine.
Financially, it makes sense.

Pretty much every team in AE plays at least one game vs. non-D1 teams, so it's not like Maine is the only one doing it.
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Re: Showing how UMaine Hoop teams pad stats with 2 non D-1 g

Postby Blind Zebra » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:24 pm

Here's an option: schedule Franklin Pierce, St Anselm, Bentley, Southern New Hampshire etc. How about Bates or Colby? At least they have better programs than UMPI or UMM. Exhibitions: Canadian Schools like: Acadia, UPEI, St Mary's, Dalhousie etc.
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Postby Maine19Fan » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:39 pm

You'll have to tell us why Maine doesn't play against Bates/Colby,etc. ....
My guess is those programs don't want to play Maine.

As for the D2's ... Franklin Pierce is 270 miles away, Bentley is 250 miles away, Southern NH is 230 miles away, St. Anselm's 230 miles away.

Games against any of those teams would almost assuredly require an overnight stay. Financially, the guarantee money Maine would have to pay to bring one of those teams in would probably be triple what it pays to get UMPI, UMM to come in.

Considering Maine's financial restraints, that cost is probably prohibitive. In a theoretical world, probably better to play the D2's. But, the real world, with restrictive finances, likely ensures that it doesn't happen.

As for the Canadian schools for exhibitions: D1 teams only allowed to play two "exhibition" games annually. And, you do know that Acadia/Dalhousie both close to 500 miles away from UMaine, St. Mary's 460 miles away, UPEI 400 miles away?

Those mean extremely expensive trips, and it means games vs. those teams aren't going to happen.
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Re: Showing how UMaine Hoop teams pad stats with 2 non D-1 g

Postby bcbc55 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:22 pm

Play Husson and St. Joe's not as exhibition games as they do now but schedule them for the 2 non D-1 games and then play UMPI and UMM as the 2 exhibition games. This will cost no more in travel or anything else. Just flip flop the exhibition games with the 2 non D-1 games. Better opponents for non conference games and would be harder to beat them and to pad their stats. Don'

They also could play USM as they have in the past. Oh yeah they didn't schedule UMFK this year either. Better matchup then UMPI or UMM. Maine has lost to Husson, USM and UMFK in past years.

Don't tell me they schedule the way they do now for any other reason is to get 2 automatic sure wins and pad their stats.

If Maine had not played non D-1, D-2 or D-3 teams they would be 13 and 87 instead of 21-87.

At least the women had the courage to play D-2 Stonehill this year in an exhibition game and travel to Syracuse for a scrimmage. Talk about travel costs to Syracuse, NY for a scrimmage. I believe last year Syracuse was at the PIT for a closed scrimmage. Has to be closed scrimmage against D-1 teams as exhibition games and rememberr they cannot play games with D-1 teams in exhibition games.

PLAY THE UMPI's, UMM'S, UMFK's, UMF'S etc as exhibition games and play the Hussons, St. Joe's and USM for non conference games. Problem solved except for being able to pad their stats and win columns as easily against the Hussons, St. JOe.s and USM's.
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Re: Showing how UMaine Hoop teams pad stats with 2 non D-1 g

Postby MaineBBFan99 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:33 pm

In terms of the Maine women's team, they played 3 top 25 teams and currently have a strength of schedule that is 29th in the country. Their schedule is plenty strong; I have no problem with them adding a few D-3 games to build confidence/pad stats.

Can we move on to a new topic? I feel like this topic has been litigated and re-litigated on this message board several times.
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