A Great Era for Civil Discourse

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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby hawksfan » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:35 pm

mainejeff wrote:Trump wants a tenfold increase in nuclear weapons. How are we going to pay for this?


A)...Trumpy expressing a "want" does not automatically translate into actionable policy, don't forget it was Rubio who exposed Trumpy's lack of knowledge regarding our "nuclear triad" during on of the debates & B)....it ain't going to happen as it would violate a number of different non-proliferation treatys.

What can, and should, happen is an upgrade to anything and everything having to do with our nuclear infrastructure. The funds for that endeavor would naturally come from the defense budget.
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Postby hawksfan » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:41 pm

mainejeff wrote:Trump wants to shutdown NBC. Are #deplorables really ready to give up their 1st Ammendment rights for this clown? And what about Fox News? ;)


There's 87 months left in Trumpy's presidency MJ, for how many more months are you going to allow his Twitter musings & nonsense get you fired up...?
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Postby mainejeff » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:58 am

hawksfan wrote:
mainejeff wrote:Trump wants to shutdown NBC. Are #deplorables really ready to give up their 1st Ammendment rights for this clown? And what about Fox News? ;)


There's 87 months left in Trumpy's presidency MJ, for how many more months are you going to allow his Twitter musings & nonsense get you fired up...?


"Trumpy" is just there to plant the seeds.
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby midcoastman » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:31 am

hawksfan wrote:
mainejeff wrote:Trump wants a tenfold increase in nuclear weapons. How are we going to pay for this?


A)...Trumpy expressing a "want" does not automatically translate into actionable policy, don't forget it was Rubio who exposed Trumpy's lack of knowledge regarding our "nuclear triad" during on of the debates & B)....it ain't going to happen as it would violate a number of different non-proliferation treatys.

What can, and should, happen is an upgrade to anything and everything having to do with our nuclear infrastructure. The funds for that endeavor would naturally come from the defense budget.

Excellent and sensible response, Hawks. People freak out about every little thing that comes out of the Cheetoh's mouth, when most of it is trash and meaningless. It's unfortunate that he's our Commander in Chief, but we need to look at him through a different lens than past presidents. Checks and balances and our Constitution in general limits the power of government entities, thank god.
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby mainejeff » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:57 am

Executive order signed to dismantle the ACA....it's YOURS now, "Trumpy"!

Say it with me fellas....T-R-U-M-P-C-A-R-E. ;)
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby hawksfan » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:34 pm

mainejeff wrote:Executive order signed to dismantle the ACA....it's YOURS now, "Trumpy"!

Say it with me fellas....T-R-U-M-P-C-A-R-E. ;)


The E/O, sadly, does not "dismantle" ObamaCare. Rather, what the E/O does is allow for the purchase of health insurance across state lines & the formation of health insurance collectives....two enhancements that will encourage competition, the competition in turn will result in lower premiums, expand access to "tailor-able" insurance policies & vastly increase the efficiency with which health insurance can be delivered.

None of these things were permissable, in fact they were expressly forbidden under ObamaCare...
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby Mike Tomlin » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:29 pm

Let's just be clear. After seven years of complaining and campaigning the GOP was unable to repeal and replace the ACA. So now Trump is making it even worse. This is going to hurt people and through the industry into chaos.
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby hawksfan » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:16 pm

Mike Tomlin wrote:Let's just be clear. After seven years of complaining and campaigning the GOP was unable to repeal and replace the ACA. So now Trump is making it even worse. This is going to hurt people and through the industry into chaos.


Competion, more choice, more efficiency, lower prices...how do these things hurt people? The chaos has been ongoing since October, 2014 when this farcical monstrosity first began.
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby Mike Tomlin » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:25 pm

hawksfan wrote:
Mike Tomlin wrote:Let's just be clear. After seven years of complaining and campaigning the GOP was unable to repeal and replace the ACA. So now Trump is making it even worse. This is going to hurt people and through the industry into chaos.


Competion, more choice, more efficiency, lower prices...how do these things hurt people? The chaos has been ongoing since October, 2014 when this farcical monstrosity first began.


Talk to a hospital administrator, or someone in the insurance industry. They have made this so much worse than the ACA.
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby hawksfan » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:49 am

Mike Tomlin wrote:
hawksfan wrote:
Mike Tomlin wrote:Let's just be clear. After seven years of complaining and campaigning the GOP was unable to repeal and replace the ACA. So now Trump is making it even worse. This is going to hurt people and through the industry into chaos.


Competion, more choice, more efficiency, lower prices...how do these things hurt people? The chaos has been ongoing since October, 2014 when this farcical monstrosity first began.


Talk to a hospital administrator, or someone in the insurance industry. They have made this so much worse than the ACA.


Seems to me that which hospital administrators & insurance industry people are most upset about would be the cessation of the non-Congressionally authorized, (ergo unconstitutional), subsidies. The President is trying to do as he campaigned...end the vampiric monster of ObamaCare.

It didn't have to be this way...but the invertabrates in the Senate are the catalyst for this action. Any pain involved with extricating ourselves from this dreadful law of ObamaCare....thank them, as well as and most especially Democrats including the law's namesake....
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