A Great Era for Civil Discourse

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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby hawksfan » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:45 pm

mainejeff wrote:Republicans/conservatives are predictable too. Run roughshod over the Constitution and individual rights....unapologetically......all while draping themselves in the stars & stripes....& belittling & marginalizing every United States citizen that isn't a straight white male. #Pathetic.


Any examples of "running roughshod of the Constitution & individual rights"? Any examples " belittling & marginizing every citizen not a straight white male". The claims are laughable & saying it, no matter how often, won't make it true. Still, there must be a reason WHY you believe it...so examples?

Otherwise your post is just so much projection of standard operating Democrat behaviors...
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby hawksfan » Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:00 pm

Mike Tomlin wrote:
hawksfan wrote:
driveandive wrote:The point isn't the legality. If laws made it illegal to manufacture certain weapons or accessories, there are still fairly easy ways to make them. Reactionary legislation mostly yields ineffective results.


Agreed...re: reactionary legislation & lack of results.

Like most all "issues" with today's Democrat party...social progressives dominate it...they don't view this a need to resolve problems that lead to these tragedies. No, rather, they view the most recent events as an opportunity to make inroads on their overriding agenda which is federally mandated control of the populace. They're perfectly content to take incremental "victories" in pursuit of their goals. Hence the reactionary demand for "common sense" gun "safety" (notice how the word safety has replaced the word control? SPD language games at work here) laws that aren't even in the same galaxy insofar as solving the problem at hand...thing is the only way to achieve that objective is to go full on reactionary to ram it through before emotions cool. It is cynical, it is pernicious & it is the exact same game plan every single time.

Note...the above pertains to SPD politicians, the BHG legacy media & the useful chuckleheaded celebrities such as Jimmy Kimmel, Chuck "crocadile tears" Schumer's latest progressive sock puppet...


That’s a whole lot of finger pointing about finger pointing without any solutions.


Fair enough...

Solution #1....we do NOTHING with new gun laws...and there is not a single proposed new law that would have prevented a single mass shooting.

Solution #2...reform the background check system...Dylan Roof passed a Federal check even though he had a felony on his record & should have failed..so Uncle Stoopid strikes again.

Solution #3....(fat chance they'll ever do this but...)....insist the SPD's take ownership for what they want...to ban gun ownership.... just say it! Because there's a process for it....get 291 votes in the House, get 67 votes in the Senate & then get 37 state legislatures to approve it....voila! You have the 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution. Just be honest, just go ahead and say it....we know the gun grabbers want that, we know they want to...say it! & save the emotionalism for important things....like how atrociously bad the Patriots defense is...
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby Mike Tomlin » Sat Oct 07, 2017 6:37 pm

As a gun owner I don’t understand the anger towards non gun owners after an event that makes guns look terrifying. Second Amendment rights are not under any threat. But thinking that they are must be a nice distraction from the monumental failure of the GOP at everything else now.
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby driveandive » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:42 pm

mainejeff wrote:
driveandive wrote:
mainejeff wrote:They need to ban plastic, aluminum and glass too! Those materials can hold alcoholic beverages which if consumed too much can lead to drunk driving which is already illegal. Ban materials that can hold alcohol AND 3-D printers!!!

:roll: :roll: :roll:

See, now you're getting it. Unless you unintentionally made my point while missing it.


But wait a minute.....we have common sense drunk driving legislation. Why is that?


Good comparison to these types of reactionary gun legislation. Making alcohol illegal was not effective. Put the penalties on the ones responsible, not the alcohol. Thanks for making my point again.
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby Mike Tomlin » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:16 am

hawksfan wrote:
mainejeff wrote:Republicans/conservatives are predictable too. Run roughshod over the Constitution and individual rights....unapologetically......all while draping themselves in the stars & stripes....& belittling & marginalizing every United States citizen that isn't a straight white male. #Pathetic.


Any examples of "running roughshod of the Constitution & individual rights"? Any examples " belittling & marginizing every citizen not a straight white male". The claims are laughable & saying it, no matter how often, won't make it true. Still, there must be a reason WHY you believe it...so examples?

Otherwise your post is just so much projection of standard operating Democrat behaviors...


The Patriot Act.
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby driveandive » Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:09 am

How did the Patriot Act belittle every American not a straight white male?
While the Patriot act is surely unconstitutional, it was passed in the Senate by 99-1 so you can blame both parties for that reactionary legislation. Now just please point out the straight white male part.
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby Mike Tomlin » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:10 pm

driveandive wrote:How did the Patriot Act belittle every American not a straight white male?
While the Patriot act is surely unconstitutional, it was passed in the Senate by 99-1 so you can blame both parties for that reactionary legislation. Now just please point out the straight white male part.


Sorry, I didn’t read carefully enough. My mistake. This is interesting: http://theweek.com/articles/582926/how- ... un-control
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby mainejeff » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:43 pm

God bless Bob Corker!
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby hawksfan » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:33 am

mainejeff wrote:God bless Bob Corker!


Yes, yes by all means bless Bob Corker for saying mean things on twitter to the President in response to the President saying mean things on twitter about him....yeah! What a hero!

Also lets bless Bob Corker for being the primary sponser of the bill that virtually ensures the lunatic death cult in Iran becomes a nuclear armed state...yeah Bob..! What a humdinger that one was! :roll:
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Re: A Great Era for Civil Discourse

Postby Mike Tomlin » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:44 am

mainejeff wrote:God bless Bob Corker!


I just hope that Pence can find a safe space.
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