THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING

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Re: THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING

Postby mainejeff » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:58 am

I'm not here to be your lap dog.
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Re: THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING

Postby hawksfan » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:01 pm

mainejeff wrote:I'm not here to be your lap dog.


I'll try a different tack....

What are your thoughts on the current administration's energy policy? In my view the overall policy objectives....those being energy independence, capitalizing on our chance to be a net energy exporter....thereby neutering a whole pack of miscreants....starting with big bad Vlad (see DJT's Warsaw speech)...are outstanding &good for alll Americans.

Agree or disagree...?
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Re: THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING

Postby Lwyrup » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:34 pm

So Hawks,

If there is nothing there why is Trump investigating if he can pardon himself and his aids and family.

Sounds like he is running scared!!
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Re: THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING

Postby hawksfan » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:42 pm

Lwyrup wrote:So Hawks,

If there is nothing there why is Trump investigating if he can pardon himself and his aids and family.

Sounds like he is running scared!!


Thats a new one on me....where'd ya get that one LMan? The DailyKos...?
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Re: THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING

Postby Lwyrup » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:12 pm

Very interesting:

INFORMATION?...#RUSSIANTRUMP ;)........In case you haven't connected the news dots... Putin controls the largest oil company in Russia. He made a 500 Billion dollar deal with the CEO of Exxon Mobil. Obama put sanctions in place which stopped that deal. Russia then hacked into the emails and gave them to wikileaks in order to get Trump elected. When the CIA told Congress this in September (James Comey was also in that meeting), Mitch McConnell refused to tell the American people, blackmailing Obama saying he would frame it as playing partisan politics during the election. Comey released the infamous no-information letter. Mitch McConnell's wife was picked for Trump's cabinet. The CEO of Exxon is now the Secretary of Stander why our President has been so quick to dismiss the CIA's findings?.........it gets better..2/...Here are some facts : Decide for yourselves 1) Trump owes Blackstone/ Bayrock group $560 million dollars (one of his largest debtors and the primary reason he won't reveal his tax returns)
2) Blackstone is owned wholly by Russian billionaires, who owe their position to Putin and have made billions from their work with the Russian government.
3) Other companies that have borrowed from Blackstone have claimed that owing money to them is like owing to the Russian mob and while you owe them, they own you for many favors.
4) The Russian economy is badly faltering under the weight of its over-dependence on raw materials which as you know have plummeted in the last 2 years leaving the Russian economy scrambling to pay its debts.
5) Russia has an impetus to influence our election to ensure the per barrel oil prices are above $65 ( they are currently hovering around $50)
6) Russia can't affordably get at 80% of its oil reserves and reduce its per barrel cost to compete with America at $45 or Saudi Arabia at $39. With Iranian sanctions being lifted Russia will find another inexpensive competitor increasing production and pushing Russia further down the list of suppliers.
As for Iranian sanctions, the 6 countries lifting them allowing Iran to collect on the billions it is owed for pumping oil but not being paid for it. These billions Iran can only get if the Iranian nuclear deal is signed. Trump spoke of ending the deals which would cause oil sales sanctions to be reimposed, which would make Russian oil more competitive.
7) Rex Tillerson (Trump's pick for Secretary of State) is the head of ExxonMobil, which is in possession of patented technology that could help Putin extract 45% more oil at a significant cost savings to Russia, helping Putin put money in the Russian coffers to help reconstitute its military and finally afford to mass produce the new and improved systems that it had invented before the Russian economy had slowed so much.
8) Putin cannot get access to these new cost saving technologies OR outside oil field development money, due to US sanctions on Russia, because of its involvement in Ukrainian civil war.
9) Look for Trump to end sanctions on Russia and to back out of the Iranian nuclear deal, to help Russia rebuild its economy, strengthen Putin and make Tillerson and Trump even richer, thus allowing Trump to satisfy his creditors at Blackstone.
10) With Trump's fabricated hatred of NATO and the U.N., the Russian military reconstituted, the threat to the Baltic states is real. Russia retaking their access to the Baltic Sea from Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia and threatening the shipping of millions of cubic feet of natural gas to lower Europe from Scandinavia, allowing Russia to make a good case for its oil and gas being piped into eastern Europe.
Sources: Time Magazine, NY Times, The Atlantic, The Guardian UK......phew.....did you make it thru all of that?.. Credits to Clint Herzog! Thank You!!
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Re: THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING

Postby Mike Tomlin » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:25 am

So they didn't really just talk about adoption?

After Sessions gets fired we'll get to find our who the dumbest lawyer in the country is, it'll be the dumb schmuck who replaces him.
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Re: THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING

Postby hawksfan » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:04 pm

Lwyrup wrote:Very interesting:

INFORMATION?...#RUSSIANTRUMP ;)........In case you haven't connected the news dots... Putin controls the largest oil company in Russia. He made a 500 Billion dollar deal with the CEO of Exxon Mobil. Obama put sanctions in place which stopped that deal. Russia then hacked into the emails and gave them to wikileaks in order to get Trump elected. When the CIA told Congress this in September (James Comey was also in that meeting), Mitch McConnell refused to tell the American people, blackmailing Obama saying he would frame it as playing partisan politics during the election. Comey released the infamous no-information letter. Mitch McConnell's wife was picked for Trump's cabinet. The CEO of Exxon is now the Secretary of Stander why our President has been so quick to dismiss the CIA's findings?.........it gets better..2/...Here are some facts : Decide for yourselves 1) Trump owes Blackstone/ Bayrock group $560 million dollars (one of his largest debtors and the primary reason he won't reveal his tax returns)
2) Blackstone is owned wholly by Russian billionaires, who owe their position to Putin and have made billions from their work with the Russian government.
3) Other companies that have borrowed from Blackstone have claimed that owing money to them is like owing to the Russian mob and while you owe them, they own you for many favors.
4) The Russian economy is badly faltering under the weight of its over-dependence on raw materials which as you know have plummeted in the last 2 years leaving the Russian economy scrambling to pay its debts.
5) Russia has an impetus to influence our election to ensure the per barrel oil prices are above $65 ( they are currently hovering around $50)
6) Russia can't affordably get at 80% of its oil reserves and reduce its per barrel cost to compete with America at $45 or Saudi Arabia at $39. With Iranian sanctions being lifted Russia will find another inexpensive competitor increasing production and pushing Russia further down the list of suppliers.
As for Iranian sanctions, the 6 countries lifting them allowing Iran to collect on the billions it is owed for pumping oil but not being paid for it. These billions Iran can only get if the Iranian nuclear deal is signed. Trump spoke of ending the deals which would cause oil sales sanctions to be reimposed, which would make Russian oil more competitive.
7) Rex Tillerson (Trump's pick for Secretary of State) is the head of ExxonMobil, which is in possession of patented technology that could help Putin extract 45% more oil at a significant cost savings to Russia, helping Putin put money in the Russian coffers to help reconstitute its military and finally afford to mass produce the new and improved systems that it had invented before the Russian economy had slowed so much.
8) Putin cannot get access to these new cost saving technologies OR outside oil field development money, due to US sanctions on Russia, because of its involvement in Ukrainian civil war.
9) Look for Trump to end sanctions on Russia and to back out of the Iranian nuclear deal, to help Russia rebuild its economy, strengthen Putin and make Tillerson and Trump even richer, thus allowing Trump to satisfy his creditors at Blackstone.
10) With Trump's fabricated hatred of NATO and the U.N., the Russian military reconstituted, the threat to the Baltic states is real. Russia retaking their access to the Baltic Sea from Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia and threatening the shipping of millions of cubic feet of natural gas to lower Europe from Scandinavia, allowing Russia to make a good case for its oil and gas being piped into eastern Europe.
Sources: Time Magazine, NY Times, The Atlantic, The Guardian UK......phew.....did you make it thru all of that?.. Credits to Clint Herzog! Thank You!!


Name a policy that has been implemented ny the Trump Administration that has been a benefit to Russia....otherwise...stick to the Kennedy "magic bullet", Amelia Erhardt's disappearance or even better...Area 51....

Otherwise...WOW! :shock:
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Re: THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING

Postby Mike Tomlin » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:44 pm

The decision to stop arming anti-Assad rebels. And right after that meeting in Europe.
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Re: THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING

Postby hawksfan » Sat Jul 22, 2017 9:16 pm

Mike Tomlin wrote:The decision to stop arming anti-Assad rebels. And right after that meeting in Europe.


Please...Syria is a failed state...no one knows who anyone is except verified Kurds...
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Re: THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING

Postby Mike Tomlin » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:35 pm

hawksfan wrote:
Mike Tomlin wrote:The decision to stop arming anti-Assad rebels. And right after that meeting in Europe.


Please...Syria is a failed state...no one knows who anyone is except verified Kurds...


Keep setting that bar lower than you'd tolerate from a Clinton.
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