Slow second half start plagues Maine in 86-74 loss to UMBC

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Slow second half start plagues Maine in 86-74 loss to UMBC

Postby Tom Nolette » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:00 am

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Re: MBB at UMBC Jan 27, 1 pm

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Re: MBB at UMBC Jan 27, 1 pm

Postby mainejeff » Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:55 pm

Maine is actually not painful to watch today.

White & Lowndes are pretty good players to build around.

Araujo
Calixte
White
Lowndes
Fleming

That seems like the best line-up to put out there on the floor.
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Re: MBB at UMBC Jan 27, 1 pm

Postby Blind Zebra » Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:28 pm

Maine up 1 at half then Lyles catches fire out of the locker room for 5- 3s early in the 2nd. Maine turning the ball over at an alarming rate and then down 22. Walsh has benched his starters. Man that fell apart quickly.
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Re: MBB at UMBC Jan 27, 1 pm

Postby Blind Zebra » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:03 pm

UMBC wins 86-74. Maine cut into the lead a bit after Lyles went nuts but too little too late. Just way too many turnovers. Many of the TO's on sloppy passes into traffic. UMBC's quickness in the backcourt was a major problem for Maine's ballhandlers.
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UMe men reduce 3's, but too many subs & TO's lead to loss

Postby bcbc55 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:41 pm

The UMaine men's basketball team reduced their 3 point shooting as they only took 16 of 56 FGA's as 3's for just 28.6% of the FGA's were threes. They shot 6-16 from beyond the arc for 37.5%.

However, they played 8 players double figure minutes and 1 played 9 and 1 played 8 and that may have been because they trailed by as many as 22 points in the second half after leading by 1 36-35. They used 9 players in the first half and 12 players in the second half. Again did not use just 7 players double figure minutes did not help the situation. So maybe the UNH game was not by design, but just by accident when they only used 6 players double figure minutes and Maine played their best two consecutive halves of the year.

However, the players fought back with their never say die attitudes and cut the margin to 11 late in the second half. Can't criticize the effort and hustle, but sure can criticize the mental mistakes that lead too many of the 24 turnovers which was the biggest factor in the loss today. They had been averaging 15 TO's a game but those additional 9 more than was the difference in the game as Maine shot well and out rebounded the Retreviers they just didn't out think them from the shoulders up.

Plus, Maine had no defensive answer for D. Lyles as he buried 3 after 3 with open looks.In the big offensive spurt that UMBC had that broke the game wide open Lyles out scored Maine 21-11.

However, Maine got caught up in UMB's much faster pace and went back to playing at too fast a pace by using too many players and relying on their athleticism more then their basketball IQ's (should only use 7 players double figure minutes).

Because of the too fast pace Maine decided to play the tempo UMBC dictated by playing from the shoulders down and the players decided who shot, when they shot and where they shot from instead of from the shoulders up like they did against UNH which against UMBC today created very poor basketball making decisions that lead to real poor shot selection, 9 turnovers above their ave. of 15 with 24 and increased defensive fouls with 9.

But it was the 24 turnovers which many were of the careless variety that lead to Maine's downfall in the second half. Most of those turnovers came as a result of not UMBC's defense but just poor basketball making decisions, bad passes, muffs, travels, player out of control fouls and decisions, you name it they had it today as far as turnovers go.

UMBC scored 31 points off those 24 Maine turnovers wile Main only scored 21 points off UMBC's 16 turnovers and there was your game as Maine lost by 12 points.

Maine shot well from the floor shooting 51.6% on 24 of 56 but UMBC shot 52.4% on 33 of 63. Maine shot 37.5% for 3's on 6 f 16 while UMBC went 11 for 26 for 42.8%. From the line Maine was 10 for 14 for 71.4% and UMBC struggled at 50% on 9 of 18.

The 24 Maine turnovers was the difference in the game as UMBC only had 16.

Maine had 32 rebounds to UMBC's 34

Maine had 13 assists to UMBC's 18.

Maine outscored UMBC in the paint 36-34

Isaiah White had a career game for Maine with 22 points, 3 for 4 from beyond the arc and had 7 rebounds and 3 assists. Calixe had 14 12 coming in the first half and Fleming had a dozen along with 7 rebounds.

UMBC had 4 players in double figures as the leading scorer in the America East Conference Darius Lyles had 33 points, supported by Maruko with 10 points and 8 assists, Curran with 12 and Sherburne with 11.

Maine accomplished their one of the things they have to do by reducing the number of threes attempted, but played more than 7 players double figure minutes, though Ilker Er was limited because of the injury that kept him out of the UNH game and played only 10 minutes today.

It was the more turnovers than a bakery with 2 dozen that put this loss on the Bears as UMBC scored 31 points off those 24 turnovers as they fall to 2-6 in the AE conference while UMBC holds on to second at 6-2. Maine is now 5-18 overall and 3 and 18 versus D-1 opponents.

Maine is back in action next Wednesday when the host UMass-Lowell at the CIC in Bangor at 7:00pm. Important game as the UMass-Lowell team was tied with Maine at 2-5 going into today's games for the 7th place one spot out of that dreaded 9th spot that means no tournament this season as there is no 8-9 play in game for the 9th place team in the final conference standings. Binghamton was 1-6 in 9th place going into today's schedule as the lost a close game to UNH to stay in 9th place at 1-7.
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Re: MBB at UMBC Jan 27, 1 pm

Postby bcbc55 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:01 pm

Blind Zebra wrote:UMBC wins 86-74. Maine cut into the lead a bit after Lyles went nuts but too little too late. Just way too many turnovers. Many of the TO's on sloppy passes into traffic. UMBC's quickness in the backcourt was a major problem for Maine's ballhandlers.


BZ: After playing from the shoulders up against UNH for the first time this season in my opinion because they didn't live and die by the three and only used 6 players double figure playing minutes and in the first half today against UMBC they suddenly reverted back to their 3 plus season old ways after leading by 1 at the half 36-35.

They suddenly reverted back to playing from the shoulders down again because Walsh used to many players double figure playing minutes and they all were trying to rely on their athleticism and not their basketball IQ's, which had them making poor basketball decisions with poor shot selection (although they only took 16 three attempts out of 56 FGA's for 28% of their FGA's as threes and shot 6 of 16 for 37.6%), definitely increase turnovers 24 from averaging 15 going into today's game and more personal defensive fouls lead to their second half demise.

Usually, it has been a first half demise and a good second half until they put to excellent halves back to back against UNH for their best D-1 win of the 3 this season.

It is going to be tough now to get a home quarter-final tourney game by going 8-8 now that Vermont, UMBC, Hartford, Albany and Stonybrook have beaten Maine.

Probably best thing to hope for is not to finish 8th or ninth especially ninth as they will not be in the tourney this year as with Mass-Lowell in there will be no 8-9 playin game and going 8th means you have to play Vermont again at Vermont.
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Re: UMe men reduce 3's, but too many subs & TO's lead to los

Postby basketball_guy » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:13 pm

Nice Stats....

But I think questions are still lingering from last year....

https://bangordailynews.com/2017/03/07/ ... -continue/

I don't wish ill will on anyone but to think Walsh will be bak next season...I would be shocked....to be quite frank

about it. But I guess we have to endure another Febuary....

I wonder just what Karlton Creech is thinking at this point...and the team up and down the way it is...

5-18 overall
2-6 AE Conference
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Re: UMe men reduce 3's, but too many subs & TO's lead to los

Postby bcbc55 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:27 pm

basketball_guy wrote:Nice Stats....

But I think questions are still lingering from last year....

https://bangordailynews.com/2017/03/07/ ... -continue/

I don't wish ill will on anyone but to think Walsh will be bak next season...I would be shocked....to be quite frank

about it. But I guess we have to endure another Febuary....

I wonder just what Karlton Creech is thinking at this point...and the team up and down the way it is...

5-18 overall
2-6 AE Conference


basketball-guy: Thanks for reminding me of that article. AD Creech and Walsh should reread it too.

5-18 overall and 3-18 vs.D-1ers and 2-6 in conference added to 3 plus years to today of 23-102 overall and 15-102 vs. D-1 opponents says it all and they are not going to be able to finish 4th to get a home quarter-final game in the tourney. In fact, the way they are going they will be lucky if they don't finish 9th and not make the tourney. That might be better then finishing 8th and having to go to Vermont again this year.

Question is how long will before some players start to transfer if Walsh is gone? Probably wait until they find out who the new coach is if and that is a BIG IF Walsh is not rehired.

Doesn't look like Walsh has listened to Bob Simon as Maine has made very few changes then what they have done the past 3 plus seasons except for reducing the 3 attempts their last 2 games and 1 game of only using less than 10 players double figure minutes (6 players) vs. UNH last Thursday.

You divide those 15 D-1 wins so far into the coaching salaries of the staff for 3 plus years and those are real darn expensive wins.

Also, doing the same things over and over and over again for the past 3 plus seasons and expecting different results and then not getting much or any better just doesn't make much basketball coaching sense or should I call it "Supervisor of all those substitutions" sense that they have used for 3 plus years except for 1 game UNH last week and they played the best 2 back to back halves of the season.
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Slow second half start plagues Maine in 86-74 loss to UMBC

Postby Tom Nolette » Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:57 am

Slow second half start plagues Maine in 86-74 loss to UMBC
- http://www.foxbangor.com/sports/item/23 ... ss-to-umbc

Early Second Half Run Paces UMBC Over Maine
Isaiah White Records a career-high 22 points in the loss
-http://www.goblackbears.com/news/2018/1/27/mens-basketball-early-second-half-run-paces-umbc-over-maine.aspx
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