MBB: UMBC wins 72-67

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Re: MBB: UMBC wins 72-67

Postby fromthebench » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:58 am

Opinions vary, but I think they are doing ok. 30% on three's is equivalent to 45% on two's. Not earth shattering but certainly not a disaster. 76 points is the magic number! :)
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Re: MBB: UMBC wins 72-67

Postby ExpoEddie » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:10 pm

Just curious to learn from UMO Men's followers if they think Terron Moss could play for them. They have not come to a game yet.
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Re: MBB: UMBC wins 72-67

Postby bcbc55 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:07 pm

ExpoEddie wrote:Just curious to learn from UMO Men's followers if they think Terron Moss could play for them. They have not come to a game yet.


EXPO: They could use him right now at point guard as 6'0" Araon Calixe is playing out of position as a point guard as he is a wing point shooting guard. Calixe tries to do too much as the point guard and Moss certainly is as good as the sub point guard 5'10" JUCO junior transfer Araujo who is getting 16.9 minutes a game off the bench appearing in all 18 of Maine's of 4-14 overall and 2-14 versus D-1 opponents to give Calixe a rest at point. Moss could start at point and move Calixe to the other guard position.

Actually 6'3" Nick Gilpin, Hampden Academy and now a sophomore starting point guard at Bates College is a better point guard all around then 5'9" Araujo.
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Re: MBB: UMBC wins 72-67

Postby Archer Bunker » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:19 pm

What they need is two real good shooting guards that can make the 3-ball. Make those 3's and you can open up the inside for the big boys. Very simple really. Then UMO would win some games. Problem is trying to recruit those shooters.

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Re: MBB: UMBC wins 72-67

Postby bcbc55 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:57 pm

Archer Bunker wrote:What they need is two real good shooting guards that can make the 3-ball. Make those 3's and you can open up the inside for the big boys. Very simple really. Then UMO would win some games. Problem is trying to recruit those shooters.

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AB: They have not tried to go inside on the 3 plus years of the Walsh regime. Calixe 42,0%, White 39.9%, Lowdnes 35.7%, Ashley 34.1%, Ilija S. 33.3%, are good enough 3 shooters if Maine would use the right spacing to go inside- and inside-outside, use the 6 best ways to obtain the 3's, to put the shooters in the proper position before they receive the pass, not after they receive the ball.

Also, if they got their 3's from the 6 best ways to have the stand still shooter already squared to the basket, hands having showing passer where he wants the ball and in the shooting positions and not the 6 lowest % ways to get the 3 by having the shooter moving to a shooting position before getting his hands where he wants the ball and in the shooting position before squaring to the basket like in the 6 best ways to get the open 3's because they are moving before to receive the ball.

Maine's problems with the 3 game for both the men and women teams is that their shooters are not squared o the basket, not showing the passer where they want the ball and not having their hands in the proper shooting position.

When they are not in the right positions, then they have to pivot to get squared, adjust their hands to the shooting position and adjust the ball to the starting shooting position they have to rush their shot because the defenders get enough time to close out faster then if the player catches the ball in the proper positions and ready to shoot the ball.

It is not rocket science, but neither team gets the ball in the quick already position enough to shoot the 3 because they are NOT already in the correct shooting positions before they receive the ball.

Most of the Mainer's taking the threes have to get ready to get into the proper shooting positions after they receive the ball, not already being in the proper shooting position before they receive the ball and that is the biggest problems with their 3 game along with the women's team taking 43.2% of the their FGA's as threes and the women 43.2%. Too high of a percentage of taking 3's for their shooting positions of 29.9% for the men and 31.0% 3 point shooting percentages for the women. Both teams abuse the 3 by over using them and not shooting them properly and not using the 6 best percentage methods to make the 3s.
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Re: MBB: UMBC wins 72-67

Postby bcbc55 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:09 pm

fromthebench wrote:Opinions vary, but I think they are doing ok. 30% on three's is equivalent to 45% on two's. Not earth shattering but certainly not a disaster. 76 points is the magic number! :)


fromthebench: It will be a disaster come one and done time if they continue to "live an die by the 3" because of both's over use and abuse of the 3 and the low percentage ways that they get the 3's and how often the players decide who shoots, where they shoot from (the 3 behind the 3 point line over 42% of the time) and when they shoot during the shot clock.

It appears by both teams 3 point shooting stats that the UMaine basketball playing inmates run the UMaine basketball programs asylum as they are free to take the three at will when ever they want to despite time on the shot clock, score of game and time remaining on the shot cock and the game and the score.
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Re: MBB: UMBC wins 72-67

Postby thebam » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:09 am

bcbc55 wrote:
ExpoEddie wrote:Just curious to learn from UMO Men's followers if they think Terron Moss could play for them. They have not come to a game yet.


EXPO: They could use him right now at point guard as 6'0" Araon Calixe is playing out of position as a point guard as he is a wing point shooting guard. Calixe tries to do too much as the point guard and Moss certainly is as good as the sub point guard 5'10" JUCO junior transfer Araujo who is getting 16.9 minutes a game off the bench appearing in all 18 of Maine's of 4-14 overall and 2-14 versus D-1 opponents to give Calixe a rest at point. Moss could start at point and move Calixe to the other guard position.

Actually 6'3" Nick Gilpin, Hampden Academy and now a sophomore starting point guard at Bates College is a better point guard all around then 5'9" Araujo.

Seems to me if Gilpin was good enough to play at Maine, he'd be there and not at some D-3 school.
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Re: MBB: UMBC wins 72-67

Postby fromthebench » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:14 am

Yes to Moss.
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Re: MBB: UMBC wins 72-67

Postby bcbc55 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:21 pm

thebam wrote:
bcbc55 wrote:
ExpoEddie wrote:Just curious to learn from UMO Men's followers if they think Terron Moss could play for them. They have not come to a game yet.


EXPO: They could use him right now at point guard as 6'0" Araon Calixe is playing out of position as a point guard as he is a wing point shooting guard. Calixe tries to do too much as the point guard and Moss certainly is as good as the sub point guard 5'10" JUCO junior transfer Araujo who is getting 16.9 minutes a game off the bench appearing in all 18 of Maine's of 4-14 overall and 2-14 versus D-1 opponents to give Calixe a rest at point. Moss could start at point and move Calixe to the other guard position.

Actually 6'3" Nick Gilpin, Hampden Academy and now a sophomore starting point guard at Bates College is a better point guard all around then 5'9" Araujo.

Seems to me if Gilpin was good enough to play at Maine, he'd be there and not at some D-3 school.


thebam: He is better than Araujo and he is 6'3" not 5'9" and is a better shooter and creator than Araujo.
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Re: MBB: UMBC wins 72-67

Postby Archer Bunker » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:48 pm

Cimmie agree with what you say. I said
very simple really
and you said
It is not rocket science
well then it is up to the coach to make sure they are into these positions and it should be worked on in practice. Problem solved.

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