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Re: Final Columbia 83 Maine men 71

Postby mainejeff » Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:01 pm

Walsh has driven the best players out of town. Not sure what he was/is trying to prove, but for now....he has proven that he does not have the chops to run a D-1 program. He's a terrific blogger though! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: Final Columbia 83 Maine men 71

Postby bcbc55 » Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:06 pm

mainejeff wrote:Walsh has driven the best players out of town. Not sure what he was/is trying to prove, but for now....he has proven that he does not have the chops to run a D-1 program. He's a terrific blogger though! :roll: :roll: :roll:


mainejeff: Couldn't agree more. If he could get his team to play as well as he BLOGS then UMaine would be in contention for a America L'east Title. I have enjoyed his BLOGs the past 3 plus years, Especially when they are written by him and not by others.
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Re: Final Columbia 83 Maine men 71

Postby Tom Nolette » Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:24 am

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Final | Maine finishes the game on a 22-6 run, but the Black Bears fall to Columbia 83-71.
Aaron Calixte recorded a game-high 19 points, with 13 coming in the second half alone.
Maine begins 2018 with the #AEHoops opener against Stony Brook on Jan. 3 at 7:00 p.m.


Calixte sets free throw mark in UMaine men’s loss to Columbia
http://bangordailynews.com/2017/12/30/s ... -columbia/
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Re: Final Columbia 83 Maine men 71

Postby Maine19Fan » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:34 am

First, bcbc55 is right about something: Calixte is not the prototypical PG. There isn't one on the roster.
But, please, let's get off Bernstein's bandwagon. He got upset that he didn't get a scholarship, transferred out and, still, no D1 program offered him anything. He is the last man on the bench of a very mediocre Kent State roster, has scored exactly three points all season through 13 games.

We do know that Columbia is better than its record would indicate, right? Tough match-up for Maine, on the road and against a considerably bigger team ... 6-10/6-8 starters with a decent 6-10 coming off the bench. Maine's post game is lacking.
So, are 3's not a good strategy vs. that inside game? Even bcbc55 should agree that when you can't get it inside against superior, bigger players ... the better strategy is to take open looks from 3.

Simon? Give that up, too. He got fired from his last position. He's not going to be Maine's head coach. No chance whatsoever. Assistants on teams that finish with 4 or 5 wins don't get promoted.

Is Walsh gone? Almost certainly so, but not until the end of the season.

Oh, nice cheap shot by bcbc55 about Walsh not coaching as well as he writes his blogs ... and, then, claiming that Walsh doesn't even write his own blogs.
You can believe with 100% certainty that Walsh writes his own blogs (and, he's a far better writer than ol' 55).

Walsh can also coach considerably better, too.
Bottom line, though... not enough talent.
If you want to blame that on Walsh, that's fair. His fourth season, this is pretty much entirely his team.

On the D1 level, it's almost entirely about talent. Maine doesn't have enough. Walsh's fault? Yes.

Someone has to figure out how to attract more talent to Maine
It's not going to be an easy job.
And, that dilemma most definitely won't be solved with a roster full of Maine-bred players.
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Re: Final Columbia 83 Maine men 71

Postby fromthebench » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:41 am

Blind Zebra is right. A roster of D2 Mainers could do better. However, I no longer think Moss should go to Maine. Why do them any favors? At the D2 level he will eventually average 20 a game, become an All-American, go to an NCAA tournament or two and then have a nice pro career in Europe. Maine can shove it!

P.S. Let's continue giving hundreds of thousands of dollars in scholarships to out of state kids who can't play, won't stay and use us like toilet paper! Tax dollars well spent!
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Re: Final Columbia 83 Maine men 71

Postby Maine19Fan » Sun Dec 31, 2017 10:49 am

Yeah, any D1 program could do better with D2 players, right?
Would love to see 10 players from our state matriculate to Maine to play and see how that works out.
Maybe that would prove, once and for all, to out-of-touch posters like bcbc55 and a few others, that it wouldn't work.

As for Moss ... what the heck. After his freshman year in college ... why not just a one-and-done and go on to the NBA?
After all, there's always a market for 5-foot-9/145-pound guards who shoot from the chest, don't have much quickness and are indifferent defenders.
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Re: Final Columbia 83 Maine men 71

Postby mainejeff » Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:27 am

So much hatred & venom on these boards...oh well, it's the MBR schtick. :|
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Re: Final Columbia 83 Maine men 71

Postby Blind Zebra » Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:15 pm

If Maine had a current roster of:
Zach Gilpin
Nick Gilpin
Kyle Bouchard
Mike McDevitt
Andrew Fleming
Chris Hudson
Ruay Bol
Isaiah Bess
Aaron Calixte
Isaiah White
Vernon Lowndes
Vince Eze (Healthy)

Would they be a better basketball team than they are today?
The answer is, yes. 8 Mainers and 4 out of state. 4 top players and the rest filling roles. Players 5 through 12 on Maine's current roster are a mix of D3 level and walk on types in my opinion. The Maine players on this list have experience as AAU and high school teammates in some cases. They have on court chemistry.
A recruiting plan like this isn't a bad idea. You have some local players to generate casual fan interest in state. You have a couple of exciting out of state players that you build your program around.
The Maine kids would likely stay in the program and help build continuity. It would be a slow rebuild, but at least a way to build some stability, which they haven't had for at least 8 years.You can build up your level of player over time, maybe reducing the number of Maine kids to 5 or 6 on a 12 man roster. With a solid coach you could get back to 10-12 wins in a couple of years and stabilize. Bring some respectability and competitiveness back.
Look at players from the past like Joe Campbell, Rickey White, Troy Barnies etc. Hard working, lightly recruited kids who became All conference players. Those type kids lay the foundation for a program. They lead by example in practice, work hard in the weight room etc. You have to identify players like that as your core. Then you reach out and steal a few diamonds to go with it.
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Re: Final Columbia 83 Maine men 71

Postby Maine19Fan » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:17 pm

Would they be better?
Would a bunch of DII players, all on mediocre DII or, even, DIII programs (N. Gilpin) help Maine?
Of course not.

No D1 team wins with D2, D3 talent, and that's what this bunch is. They're all at the level at which they should play.

You've got the makings of an all-Maine team at Bentley: N. Gilpin, Bouchard, Hudson ... and you can throw in Nick Burton ... and Bentley is mediocre: 7-4 overall and no better than the 4th or 5th-best team in the NE10's Northeast Conference. This after a 14-13 overall last season.

Yeah, that bunch would really help a D1 program!

And, Ruay Bol? Averaging 1.1 ppg. at Plymouth State?

C'mon!

None of this is "hatred" or "venom."

It's just good old fashioned honesty and objectivity.

Listen, no one enjoys watching our state's players have some success. And, if some level of success happens at the D2 level ... D2 scholarship money is the same as D1.

But, the level of play is a world removed.
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Re: Final Columbia 83 Maine men 71

Postby fromthebench » Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:28 pm

Would they be better? Maine has lost to USM, Husson, UMFK during the Walsh tenure. All D3. So yes. D2 Bentley would be worlds better. Now, to piggyback on Blind Zebra's post (sage advice compared to your lunacy) You add the four best out of state players Maine has to Bentley's lineup and you are head and shoulders above Maine. Now you have a team that can compete in America East.
Go back to your parents basement 19. Your foolish comments carry no weight around here. Walsh has recruited one Mainer in his four years (Fleming, walk-ons don't count) and he has had the worst winning percentage of all-time. This is no coincidence. You must recruit the best Maine players (whatever their rating) to be successful at Maine. History has proven this to be true.
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