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Re: MACK sneak attack

Postby thebam » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:39 am

bcbc55 wrote:Inexperience football coaching staff? What about an inexperienced athletic director and inexperienced assistants and their hiring decisions.

1. How has the hiring of the men's basketball coach worked out? Not well

2. How has the hiring of in house non head coaching experienced football coach worked out? It's been 2 years. The program is not far off from where it needs to be.

3. Did the athletic director or his staff ever think about offering Gabby Price, a life long Maine, the very successful EXPERIENCED football coach at Husson University who is a proven product who built a program from scratch and a UMaine former football player? A D-3 coach is woefully underqualified for a D1 job

4. Hiring of interim head baseball coach has yet to be proven successful? Since the interim tag was removed, Coach Derba is yet to coach a single game.

5. Hockey is still struggling and not meeting their potential.Have you been paying any attention to hockey this year at all?

6. Only solid hire so far under current athletic directors administration was for the Women's Softball Coach? And he should have been the baseball hire.He wasn't the baseball hire. Let it go

Inexperience makes for poor hiring decisions and this administration has a ways to go to prove that it is capable to make good hiring decisions. The proof is in what success each individual program has had.

The hiring on an interim basis for the women's basketball position was the right move for the time being until Maine knows what Barron's future is as far as returning to the head coaching job.

So of the major sports, men's basketball, football, men's hockey and baseball are still questionable. Baseball because they did not hire the girls softball coach who is a proven winner as a coach at the D-1 level.where?

Again the problem of the hiring an out-of-state athletic director with no head AD experience, who hires out-of- state coaches who hire out-of-state assistant coaches who recruit out-of-state athletes for the most part (except baseball).

That is the problem of hiring AD's who were not experienced AD's as they have to learn on the job and make some poor hiring decisions because of their lack of experience in doing so.

If UMaine which is a land grant state was a private university then that is none of the tax payers business. But these out-of-state people are being paid well by the state of Maine's pay standard and most will use their current jobs as a stepping stone for their careers and leave Maine with what they have done especially in the hiring of coaches area.

Why the Board of trustees don't understand that Maine has Maine born people who are more experienced as AD's name 1 person who is a Maine native with college AD experienceand coaches then the people that they hire. Most of the Mainers will work for less, work harder and not use their jobs as stepping stones. They will stay and hire Maine people and recruit Maine athletes.

As a life long Mainer I just don't get all this out-of-state hiring, especially when they are not that successful in their hiring or recruiting practices. except that out-of-staters are much more apt to hire or recruit other out-f-staters and how as that really worked out so far.After all not all "Mainer's are hicks in the sticks"
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Maine does have had capable Mainers as AD's and coaches at UMaine and in other Maine Colleges.

The board of trustees start this problem by hiring an out-of-state chancellor, who then hires an out-of-state pres-dent, who hires an out-of-state AD who hires out-of-state head coaches, who hire out-of-state assistant coaches who recruit mostly out-of-state athletes.
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Re: MACK sneak attack

Postby thebam » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:43 am

dunbar wrote:Maine needs qualified people to work for and operate a Division I athletic program. This state does not produce many (if any) of those people. Abbott? How'd that work out?As far as I’m concerned, if they chose to come here, they have the right to call this home. The provincialism of this state (especially with the older generation) really holds this state back. We need “outsiders” to keep this state afloat.
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Re: MACK sneak attack

Postby dunbar » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:21 am

thebam wrote:
dunbar wrote:Maine needs qualified people to work for and operate a Division I athletic program. This state does not produce many (if any) of those people. Abbott? How'd that work out?As far as I’m concerned, if they chose to come here, they have the right to call this home. The provincialism of this state (especially with the older generation) really holds this state back. We need “outsiders” to keep this state afloat.


Exactly my point.
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Re: MACK sneak attack

Postby Blackbear28 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:57 pm

I try not to respond to Cim because he clearly doesn't understand the year is 2017, not 1957 but thank you dunbar and bam for giving me a good laugh this morning. The elderly's fear of people not "from here" and the states inability to attract and retain talented young professionals is why the state is dying.
As for Mack saying he won't be missed on the field, that sounds like everyone talking bad about their ex after they get dumped. Mack makes the team better on the field. His dad does sound crazy though so not having to deal with that anymore will be nice for the coaching staff.
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Re: MACK sneak attack

Postby Muchups » Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:02 pm

We shouldn't downplay this. This is a HUGE loss. Mack looked like a future NFLer to me and seemed poised to carry this team to the playoffs for the next couple seasons.

This doesn't necessarily mean that the team can't make strides still but they will have to find production somewhere else as none of the current running backs will be able to come close to duplicating Mack's success last season.

Any word on Edwards? It seemed to me he had the strongest reason to have gripes with the staff/program. He was severely under-utilized last season.
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Re: MACK sneak attack

Postby bcbc55 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:04 pm

Blackbear28 wrote:I try not to respond to Cim because he clearly doesn't understand the year is 2017, not 1957 but thank you dunbar and bam for giving me a good laugh this morning. The elderly's fear of people not "from here" and the states inability to attract and retain talented young professionals is why the state is dying.
As for Mack saying he won't be missed on the field, that sounds like everyone talking bad about their ex after they get dumped. Mack makes the team better on the field. His dad does sound crazy though so not having to deal with that anymore will be nice for the coaching staff.


"Blackbear28": Glad you had a good laugh at my expense. However, being elderly also gives you experience that young people don;t have. The old thing that times change and we have to change with them is baloney, It isn't that tine that changes, a second is still a second, and it still takes 60 seconds to make uo a minute, what changes is PEOPLE and their ideas and values.

Also, knowing history helps not to repeat mistakes and "doing the same thing over and over again doing the same thing (hiring out of staters all the time the past 20 years at UMaine) and expecting different results is Webster's definition of insanity".

Again if Maine was a private school and not a land grant public institution then I wouldn't care what they did intheir hiring procedures. But, Maine taxpayers pay the outsiders salaries.

Would you rather have a doctor with 30 years of experience operating on your heart who had done thousands if such operations successfully or a doctor with little experience doing it on you? Or maybe the young doctor's only experience was helping the experienced doctor by assisting him in operations and hasn't done any on his own yet.

Also, this not allowing coaches or AD's to be considered for head jobs unless they have D-1 experience, how has that worked out lately. Football, men's basketball, etc. This is just a cop out. If a person can be a successful coach or Athletic Director at the D-3 level they can coach at any level. It is all about knowing how to handle, motivate, be fair. honest, identifying good human beings, identifying coachable and team people rather they are a coach or an AD.

Now I know that this is just the opinion of a senile, old senior, citizen, but opinions are like noses everyone has one.

Nobody has to read my posts, or reply to them, but some do or they wouldn't be criticizing my old senile opinions based on 70 years in the game of basketball as a player, coach, official and athletic director. I have some experience over 40 years of coaching, 40 years officiating and 16 years of ADing so I do have some experience in the hiring of coaches.

I always tried to hire coaches from within if they had the experience and I thought they could do the job at the high school level.

At the college level I would take hiring from within into consideration first, then second I would look for successful Mainers who are head or assistant coaches in D-1 or D-2 head coaches and then third if needed go to successful Mainers currently coaching in Maine at the D-3 level.

If you don't like my opinions then just don't read them it is as simple as that.
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Re: MACK sneak attack

Postby Blackbear27 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:46 pm

Look at this stage you all can bow to me. I am am always right, I speak months in advance of these things... I know you all will not admit it, but it is true. Mack Dad is a tool! major I would not put up with any of this. Know this Josh Mack....... Your dad has wrecked your career and you seem like an ungrateful wus. Do not think this will not follow you it will. I for one wish you the worst of luck and your best days are behind you.

Maine dad if your so close to mack dad why don't you remind him how many pros come from the FCS. HUGE MISTAKE!!!!! HUGE! Yo are a cancer MACK leave now you are easily replaced is what will dawn on you very quickly. This is for some of the rochester wus bags could not say it.

Bye Bye Quitter.
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Re: MACK sneak attack

Postby Blackbear27 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:58 pm

BB28is out!!! No knowledge. I would rather here from you a basketball player than him. Really he is just a want to be. No Knowledge.
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Re: MACK sneak attack

Postby Tom Nolette » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:32 am

BB27,

Your free to express opinion on any topic.. However, personal attacks not needed to make any point !

thx
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Re: MACK sneak attack

Postby Tom Nolette » Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:34 am

UMaine running back Josh Mack might transfer after leading nation in rushing
The school's football program would not comment on a report that the sophomore plans to leave.

...“At this time UMaine athletics has no football transactions to report,” Tyson McHatten, Maine’s assistant athletic director for communications, said in a text message. “If any news or transactions are completed, we will report them at that time.”

Coach Joe Harasymiak is on the road, McHatten said, and would not be available for comment. Harasymiak and others on his staff are traveling to seek commitments from possible recruits. For the first time, the NCAA is having an early signing period for Division I football, from Dec. 20-22.

Under NCAA transfer rules, Mack would have to sit out one academic year if he transfers to another Division I school. In all transfer cases, a student-athlete must receive written permission from his current school to contact another athletic department.

http://www.pressherald.com/2017/12/12/u ... n-rushing/
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