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Re: CIM's Latest Blog: Re:612-ftb-BZ-mbb99-TOAM:BERNSTEIN TR

Postby bcbc55 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:43 pm

Manny99 wrote:"we were not able to give him a scholarship at this point." Wash added, IT'S THAT SIMPLE".

bcbc55 - what if the Coaching Staff had already offered the said scholarship that Boz wanted? Then you could flip flop and rip Walsh for "pulling a promised scholarship" or "lying to a recruit" or some other rhetoric that is inflammatory in nature? The point is, you don't know the situation.

I can imagine your headlines - Which one would you have used?

A) "CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT 2 WALK ONS HAVE SCHOLARSHIPS???????"
B) "NO WONDER WE CAN'T WIN...... MELMED AND BERNSTEIN ARE USING TWO SCHOLARSHIPS"
C) "THIS STAFF CAN'T EVALUATE TALENT - TWO WALK ONS AWARDED SCHOLARSHIPS"
D) "TWO 6'0 GUARDS NOT RECRUITED BY ANYONE ELSE GIVEN SCHOLARSHIPS"

Honestly, you make my head hurt.

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manny99: "WE WERE NOT ABLE TO OFFER HIM A SCHOLARSHIP AT THIS POINT," WALSH ADDED. "IT'S THAT SIMPLE".

Should have read: "WE DID NOT WANT TO OFFER HIM A SCHOLARSHIP AT THIS POINT," WALSH ADDED. "IT'S THAT SIMPLE'.

Would not have flip flopped if they had given Ryan a scholarship. I would praise them saying they did the right thing as LOYALTY is very important to me now as it was to me and as a player and as a coach.

Who should of Walsh been more loyal to Bernstein or a recruit that has only been offered and has not signed yet that we know of?

Maine originally had 3 scholarships available for next year because 3 scholarship seniors left.

They have used one with the JUCO 6'5" transfer guard Isaiah White announced on 11/15/16. If Melmad is still on scholarship then they have 1 left and available and if they haven't given a scholarship to the 2 recruits they offered they still have at least 1 available for BOG. If Melmad is not still on scholarship they have 2 scholarships available if neither of the 6'5" JUCO guard and 6'10" 230lbs Lee Prep big man recruits have not signed yet or are they going to sign?

Everything is a secret at UMaine regarding men's basketball even if it is even positive.

About as transparent as a STEEL WALL.

Also, there also could be more transfers coming.

Let me respond to your A B C D

A. Would not have given a walk on that does not contribute in games a scholarship. A walk on who leads the team in minutes 858 and is third in average minutes played for two consecutive years with only 2 scholarship players ahead of him and lead team in assists this year must be good enough to play in Walsh's mind or he wouldn't have used him BOTH YEARS and not out of necessity his freshmen year. Ryan Bernstein has earned and deserves a scholarship.

B. They don't win because they have no inside-outside game, have poor shooting percentages FG% 40%, FS% 65% and 3 point% 30%, poor shot selection because the players determine who shoots, when they shoot and where they shoot from, doesn't recruit BIGS, uses too many players double figure minutes and I could go on and on

C. They can evaluate talent, they just don't develop it when they have it and they don't get enough BIGS when 12 of 16 players on the roster right now are guards.

If they had Vann, Eke and Little along wth Er and Myers starting with Fleming, Eze and depending on who is the better player, Evans, Dusan M., White or Evans that is good D-1 above average talent.

Even without the lost 3 transfers next year could have:
6'6" Er and 6'7" Fleming at forwards
6'8" Eze at Center
6'2" Myers and either 6'5" Evans, 6'5" White, 6'5" Dusan M. at the other guard and the two others leading subs of bench.

Could really use that 6'10" Big from Lee, don't need another JUCO transfer guard.

That is a very veteran team for America East which should be able to finish in the middle of the AE pack at 8-8 and possibily even win a quarter-final tourney game. That shows that they can recruit talent, but they have not shown that they can develop it or coach it properly.

D. Who are the recruited scholarship guards at 6'0" for next year"?????????????

Hope this relieves your sore head!
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Re: CIM's Latest Blog: Re:612-ftb-BZ-mbb99-toam-m99-BERNSTEI

Postby bcbc55 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:52 pm

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Re: CIM's Latest Blog: Re:612-ftb-BZ-mbb99-toam-m99-BERNSTEI

Postby bcbc55 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:10 pm

FINALLY A DECISION FOR THE UMAINE WOMEN'S BASKETBALL PROGRAM.

Better late then never. UMaine AD finally announces that Coach Barron will have an CONTINUED indefinite leave of absence continue from his stepping aside as the Women's head basketball coach last Jan. 6 because of health issues.

Amy Vachon, the associate head coach who took over in January and took the program to an 11-7 record and got the Bears to the finals again of the America East Conference tournament has been named as interim head coach for the coming 2017-18 season.

To bad this decision couldn't have been made sooner, but it is understandable considering the situation of Coach Barron's health status, as now there are few D-1 quality players available for Vachon to recruit.

She will probably have to go international again by going over seas again to try to fill out her roster. But with 5 international players wanting to leave this makes her job even harder.

Maine has 7 returning players after 5 have deserted the program by wanting to transfer all of which were international players who probably left because of lack of playing time.

Along with the 7 returning players, 1 signed recruit a shooter from Massachusetts and 2 verbal commitments as stated by Vachon, Maine cannot afford to just sign bodies to fill out the roster.

If they cannot get quality recruits then it would be better to have on campus tryouts to fill out their roster with walk ons for the year. then use the scholarships available next year to be able to be on the right time table to get recruits that can really help the program in the future.

Vachon took a team that was 7-9 overall and 0-1 in conference play under Barron although the non conference schedule was much tougher then the conference schedule and finished 11-7 all in conference play with 2 conference tourney victories including upsetting number 1 seed UNH in the semi-finals before losing again to Albany.

Here's hoping and wishing Coach Barron a complete recovery so that he can return to coaching, which is a tough enough job on a person;s health when they are healthy.

Here is also wishing Coach Vachon the best in her first full time head coaching experience at the college D-1 level. She showed she was capable of doing the job as she did a great job in a very tough situation.

Not only did she face a job with a very young team, and also lost 3 time all first team conference guard Sigi Koizar for 3 games due to a leg injury and also in which Koizar played hurt and did not fully become back to normal until late in the season.

Big key for next season in recruiting is to attempt to find a point guard to try to replace Sigi Koizar which will be not possible.

On the current roster if they do not get a point guard they will have to do it by committee between, senior 5"10" Sutton, 5'8" Brosseau or 5'10" Millan.

Had 6'0" Caseres had not wanted to transferred she would have been the top candidate to become the full time point guard because of her 6'0" size and point guard potential skills.

The next immediate problem is to get the returning post players to develop the needed post up skills and power layup skills that they do not currently possess, and neither do the post players that want to transfer.

The best thing for the 3 international players, Keleva, Sole and Caceres is to reconsider and return back to Maine now that the coaching decision has been made.

If they transfer then they are probably going to move down from Maine's ncaa.com end of season RPI position rank at 128 plus they will have to sit out a year if they transfer to D-1.

Maine was also playing in the 22nd ranked conference of the 32 D-1 women's conference and if they consider conferences like the Northeast Conference which was ranked 31 of f32 conferences in the realtimerpi.com RPI conference rankings.

Good luck to b0th Coach Barron and Coach Vachon in their futures.

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Re: CIM's Latest Blog: 612-ftb-BZ-mbb99-TOAM-m99 Berns/UMWBB

Postby bcbc55 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:23 pm

fromthebench: Couldn't agree more with your last and latest post on "BERNSTEIN LEAVING UMAINE". All the other scholarship guards that get double figure minutes playing time on the roster are shooters first, dribblers second, and passers third.

Think their shot first - teammates shot second.

Most of their assists are to themselves, first their teammates second. They think shot first, dribble second and pass third.

Illustrated by their average of 23.3 Field goals made per game with just 11.8 assists per game as a team.

Bernstein averaged 2.9 of those assists per game which was 25% of the teams 11.8 assists per game.
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Re: CIM's Latest Blog: UMM's 2017-18 Scholarship Chart

Postby bcbc55 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:03 pm

If I am reading the UMaine men's scholarship chart correctly here is the UMaine Scholarship offers for 2017-18 on goblackbears.com.......men's basketball site


Offered: 11 players
Juniors: Myers*, Calixe, ER**, Howard**
Sophomores: Eze, Ilija S., McKennon**, Dusan* M. (LaSalle Transfer)
Freshmen: Evans, Fleming, Isaiah White** (signed 11/15/16 for next year will be eligible as a sophomore, he is a JUCO.

Available: 2

6 plus recruits have been reportedly been offered.. 3 Bigs and 3 guard/forwards offered scholarships.

Anymore Imposter or Blind Zebra???????????????
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.....BUT NONE FOR BERNSTEIN. "We were not able to offer .....him a scholarship at this point." Walsh added, "It s that .....simple."

.....IT'S THAT SIMPLE WE DIDN'T WANT TO OFFER HIM A .....SCHOLARSHIP AT THIS POINT. IT'S THAT .....SIMPLE!.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Walk ons:
Juniors: Melmad@, Ward, Bernstein***
Sophomores: Ashley

@By this chart it doesn't appear that junior Garvey Melmad is on scholarship.
.....Is he or isn't he on a full scholarship?
Does anybody know his actual status scholarship wise?

The correct answer certainly effects how many scholarships are available right now, 1 if he is on scholarship -2 if he is not on scholarship!

My memory of this scholarship given to Garvey Melmad was given to him after 6'8" Ethan Mackey left the team during the first semester and Melmad got his scholarship for the 2nd semester.

Question is did he get it for the next year?

Remembering scholarships are only good for 1 year at a time and have to be re-offered each spring for the coming season.

* Transfers
** JUCO Transfers
***requested release to transfer
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8-3-4 FORMULA FOR USING 8 ( 2 freshmen in a year and 2 out a year as seniors) MAINE HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL PLAYERS

Recruiting the best 2 Maine High School Players that Maine should/would want 2 in as freshmen each year and 2 SENIORS out each year SO WOULD HAVE 8 MAINERS ON THE ROSTER each year.

Here is a very different approach to recruiting Maine players that you would like to have on your Maine roster!!!!

Tell the Maine recruits that you would like to have on your roster and their parents that Maine really wants them, but tell them you are more interested in the recruits best interests then they are Maine's or your best interests.

Tell the recruits and their parents that they really should go to prep school after high school in order to be an impact D-1 players regardless of where they go and if they go elsewhere then Maine will be disappointed.

Tell the recruits and their parents that when Maine makes it's first ever trip to the "big dance" it is going to be done with 8 Maine High School players on the roster. Also, Maine is trying to build an us Mainers against all the D-1 basketball world of the other 350 teams.

Prep school will prepare them better for college basketball like harder and longer practices, more travel, much longer game schedule and much more competitive practices and games.

Also, gets them used to living away from home for a school year.

This extra year gives them an opportunity to develop and mature physically, mentally, socially and emotionally.

Also, tell them as players they will have a much better chance to see where they truly belong in the spectrum of the 351 D-1 schools, by which level of D-1 schools they get the most offers from be it......Top Major, major, mid-major or low major.

Also, if they cannot get a scholarship to a prep school then they probably are not D-1 prospects.

Even if Maine does not get them after they go to prep school they will be glad for them and then tell them if they ever want to come back to Maine just call so it can be discussed as Maine usually have 2 scholarships available at all times each year as Maine usually only use 11 of the 13 that they are allowed.

Use 3 scholarships for position players that the Mainers do not fill.

Then hold on campus walk on tryouts for 4 walk ons to make for a squad of 15...8 Mainers-all who attend a year a of Prep School after high school and 3 non Mainers and 4 walk ons.

Chart of roster during Walsh's Tenure 2014-18

8 Maine Players Recruited
Prep......2014-15....2015-16....2016-17.....2017-18
Year......Players.....Player......Players......Players
1
2
3
4 WORKING ON PLAYERS WILL FILL IN WHEN I POST THIS
5 PROBABLY THIS COMING MONDAY
6
7
8_______________________________________

3 Non Mainer Players
...........Lawton 11.Lawton 12.Er 11,,,,,,.,Er 12
...........Golger 11..Golger 12.Howard 11.Howard 12
.......... ..............Myers Tr..Myers 11....Myers 12

4 Walk on
Players
1
2
3
4
Total
Players....15...............15............15..........15

Available
Scholarships 2..............2.............3............2

November of 2015 Maine should have played D-2 Bentley College with all those Mainers, Tyler McFarland Camden-Rockport 6'6" center, 6'5 shooting guard Keegan Hyland South Portland-Gonzaga-Farfield, 6'6", point guard Alex Furness 6'7" Wells, Cheverus-Wells, Forward 6'6" Kyle Bouchard Houlton, and Forward 6'5" Zack Gilpin Hampden and then Maine would know how Mainers stacked up against the out-of-staters they recruited.

Plus they would have drawn a great crowd to see this game. Better than playing D-3 USM and USACC Division 2 UMFK and losing to them.

Maine could do just as well as they have done the past 3 seasons using this formula of 8 Mainers, 3 non-Mainers and 4 walk ons, they certainly couldn't do any worse and they would also certainly draw better than 200 bodies in the seats like Maine did several times this past year.
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Re: CIM's Latest Blog: UMM Scholarship Chart/8-3-4 Formula f

Postby bcbc55 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:56 pm

8-3-4 Formula for Recruiting and Using 8 Mainers each season, 3 out-of-state recruits and 4 walk ons:

Coming Monday.

This will show the 8 Mainer players on the roster for the past 3 seasons and for next year. 14 total Mainers in the 4 years.

They would have been recruited in the following order of importance to the program 1. Character type of good human being 2, Academics does student work to their academic potential or better. 3. Basketball skills....don;t care about athleticism.

I have either reffed their games or seen them play in person except for one player.

I have posted the 3 out-of-staters on the post above.

Walk on tryouts would be held the very first day D-1' teams can practice. Tryouts would be open to anyone who signs up a week in advance. Tryouts would be held in the PIT and in the field house.

Look for the list of Mainers on Monday, April 10th in the late pm.

All-Mainers would be considered that they had attended prep school for a year after high school graduation.
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Re: CIM's Latest Blog: UMM Scholarship Chart/8-3-4 Formula f

Postby bcbc55 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:37 pm

HoopScoop2009: I believe BZ posted (and he is usually right on his informative posts) that Maine had offered 3 BIGS (MUST BE GUARDS) from Canada and the one from Lee prep that YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE POST.

This late in the recruiting process these BIGS are probably projects as if they weren't they would have already signed somewhere higher up then the UMaine men's 328th end of season ncaa.com RPI rankings.

Current Maine men's staff (and also the UMaine women's staff either for that matter) is/are not very good at developing BIGS. Look at the past experience. 6'9" Til Gloger they had for 2 years, 6'8" Vincent Eze they had for 2 years (1 a red shirt) and they did not improve much offensively and neither did 6'7" Eke offensively before he transferred out after one year.

Maine men desperately needs a rim protector which Eke was but Gloger and Eze were/are not.

Even if they were effective post players which they weren't or aren't the Maine men's staff would not have used them offensively on the block. When the ball went inside it was not by design it was by accident, as the past 3 seasons have shown

Gloger got less minutes 16.9 minutes per game his senior year then he did his junior year, Eke didn't get more than 23 mpg and Eze only got more minutes last season because of all the injuries and the BREAK incident.

Mentioned the women's BIGS lack of low post block skills.

Just like the men, don't know how to seal defender, how to ask for ball, signal for the ball and then when the few times that they get the ball they don't get it stationary it is usually on the move and hardly ever stop after they get it on the move, they do not know how to stop ball fake, head fake, combo fakes and use the POWER LAYUP as shown by the facts that they get very few 3 point plays and 2 shot foul shots and get very few offensive put backs of their own misses. The men at least have a little better skills but don't see the ball enough to make much difference offensively.

Maybe both staffs should BUDGET to hire a POST UP ON THE BLOCK CONSULTANT to develop their BIGS seeing that neither staff has done much so far in their post players careers development at UMaine.

THEY COULD SPLIT THE COSTS OF SUCH A HIRE AND DO THEM TOGETHER IN THE OFF SEASON, THAT IS IF IT IS OK WITH THE NCAA.

And while they are at it both teams should hire a SHOOTING CONSULTANT to help them improve both teams 40% FG%, 30% 3 point % and 65% foul shooting % which are not good percentages for a good Maine high school team.

If the men's and women's staffs can't do it themselves then they should seek out some outside help as mentioned above.

Can't believe that either program's post players have less than average post up/power layup skills and such poor shooting %'s for D-1 teams.

Oh well, it has only been 3 years for the men and 1 year for the women. So I guess it is just "Time and Patience and neither one comes in a bottle".
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Re: CIM's Latest Blog: UMM Scholarship Chart/8-3-4 Formula f

Postby CoachDLJ » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:59 pm

bcbc55 wrote:hoopacoop1009: BZ posted that Maine had offered 3 bigs (2 from Canada and the one from Lee prep that YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE POST.)

This late in the recruiting process these bigs are probably projects as if they weren't they would have already signed somewhere higher up then the UMaine men's 328th end of season ncaa.com RPI rankings.

Current Maine men's staff (and also the UMaine women's staff either) is not very good at developing Bigs. Look at the past experience. 6'9" Til Gloger they had for 2 years, 6'8" Vincent Eze they had for 2 years (1 a red shirt) and they did not improve and neither did 6'7" Eke offensively before he transferred out after one year.

Maine men desparately needs a rim protector which Eke was but Gloger and Eze were/are not.

Even if they were effective post players which they weren't or aren't Maine would not have used them offensively on the block. When the ball went inside it was not by design it was by accident.

Gloger got less minutes 16.9 minutes per game his senor year then he did his junior year, Eke didn't get more than 23 mpg and Eze only got more minutes last season because of all the injuries and the BREAK incident.

Mentioned the women's bigs lack of block skills. Just like the men, don;t know how to seal defender, how to ask for ball, signal for the ball and then hen the few times that they get they ball they don;t get it stationary or stop after they get it on the move, they do not know how to stop ball fake, head fake, combo fakes and use the POWER LAYUP as shown by the facts that they get very few 3 point plays and 2 shot foul shots and get very few offensive put backs if their own misses. The men at least have a little better skills but don't see the ball enough to make much difference offensively.

Maybe both staffs should hire a Post UP on the BLOCK Consultant to develop their BIGS seeing that neither staff has done so far in these post players careers at UMaine.

THEY COULD SPLIT THE COSTS OF SUCH A HIRE AND DO THEM TOGETHER IN THE OFF SEASON, THAT IS IF IT IS OK WITH THE NCAA.

And while they are at it both teams should hire a SHOOTING CONSULTANT to help them improve both teams 40% FG%, 30% 3 point % and 65% foul shooting % which are not good percentages for a good Maine high school team.

If the men's and women's staffs can't do it themselves then they should seek out some outside help as mentioned above.

Can't believe that either program's post players have average post up/power layup skills and such poor shooting %'s for D-1 teams.
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Re: CIM's Latest Blog: UMM Scholarship Chart/8-3-4 Formula f

Postby bcbc55 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:28 pm

CoachDLJ wrote:
bcbc55 wrote:hoopacoop1009: BZ posted that Maine had offered 3 bigs (2 from Canada and the one from Lee prep that YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR INTERESTING AND INFORMATIVE POST.)

This late in the recruiting process these bigs are probably projects as if they weren't they would have already signed somewhere higher up then the UMaine men's 328th end of season ncaa.com RPI rankings.

Current Maine men's staff (and also the UMaine women's staff either) is not very good at developing Bigs. Look at the past experience. 6'9" Til Gloger they had for 2 years, 6'8" Vincent Eze they had for 2 years (1 a red shirt) and they did not improve and neither did 6'7" Eke offensively before he transferred out after one year.

Maine men desparately needs a rim protector which Eke was but Gloger and Eze were/are not.

Even if they were effective post players which they weren't or aren't Maine would not have used them offensively on the block. When the ball went inside it was not by design it was by accident.

Gloger got less minutes 16.9 minutes per game his senor year then he did his junior year, Eke didn't get more than 23 mpg and Eze only got more minutes last season because of all the injuries and the BREAK incident.

Mentioned the women's bigs lack of block skills. Just like the men, don;t know how to seal defender, how to ask for ball, signal for the ball and then hen the few times that they get they ball they don;t get it stationary or stop after they get it on the move, they do not know how to stop ball fake, head fake, combo fakes and use the POWER LAYUP as shown by the facts that they get very few 3 point plays and 2 shot foul shots and get very few offensive put backs if their own misses. The men at least have a little better skills but don't see the ball enough to make much difference offensively.

Maybe both staffs should hire a Post UP on the BLOCK Consultant to develop their BIGS seeing that neither staff has done so far in these post players careers at UMaine.

THEY COULD SPLIT THE COSTS OF SUCH A HIRE AND DO THEM TOGETHER IN THE OFF SEASON, THAT IS IF IT IS OK WITH THE NCAA.

And while they are at it both teams should hire a SHOOTING CONSULTANT to help them improve both teams 40% FG%, 30% 3 point % and 65% foul shooting % which are not good percentages for a good Maine high school team.

If the men's and women's staffs can't do it themselves then they should seek out some outside help as mentioned above.

Can't believe that either program's post players have average post up/power layup skills and such poor shooting %'s for D-1 teams.


UMaine Orono WBB are playing UMFK (USCAA D1) next year. Next year with recruits, will have four plus 6' posts. Two traditional and two stretch.


COACHDLJ: Thanks for the info.

Are these 4 new recruits?

Are they 2 returnees and 2 recruits? If so are the 2 TRADITONALS RETURNEES AND THE 2 STRETCH NEW RECRUITS.

If they are all new recruits or they are just 2 new recruits I sure hope that they have better post up and power layup skills that I mentioned in my post above yours above then the 5 that are seeking to transfer and the 2 that are returning.

Thanks again.

Roster: so far 7 returnees, 1 recruit signed from Massachusetts and 2 verbal committments.

Guess I'll go on goblackbears.com on the women's basketball site under news to see if there is any new news on new recruits.

UPDATE; NO NEW NEWS ON THE MAINE WOMEN'S BASKETBALL NEWS SITE on goblackbears.com.

What is your source on these new recruits ( 2 or 4 or more) for the women's team?
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Re: CIM's Latest Blog: Re 2 CDLJ, HS2009 & 8-3-4 Formula for

Postby CoachDLJ » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:53 pm

I actually coach at UMFK. We have two returning, one that redshirted and a transfer. Six other commits. 5'9 guard from a Juco, 5'4 combo guard, 5'5 guard from Bangor HS, 5'10 stretch 4 from Vermont and a 5'8 guard from Katahdin, and 5'8 All State guard from Ohio. Only two of the six areally getting a little athletic aid. All 3.0 GPA plus.

I wasnt referring to UMO transfers.

We are also playing UMASS next year. We did get killed by Marshall this year, but 90% of the roster were freshmen that I recruited in May/June of last year. They worked hard, and some had to move on for various reasons. That many freshmen from all over the world is hard to keep happy when they were all Alpha's four months before.
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